hi there mages

[octopussface]

As you know you mage's are some of the most active raiders in guild.
hi i was thinking about the icc 25 man raid's
i am starting to get my pve geare together now and was thinking about the spot's inn the raid.
i know im not a raider or anything of that sort yet.
but still i was thinking that if i become a raider.
that we might get a rotation on the icc 25 man run's if you are cool with it.
i don't want to be a bother in the guild in if you think this proposal is outrages just tell me.
another idea is.
as you mages are so active in the guild
that makes spots for mage's in raid sort of impossible if there are some of the bosses that you don't need any more geare from.
i was thinking that i might step inn to get the loot an gear up my mage then i will leave the raid and you can go for the next bosses you need loot on.
i thought this might be a good idea so we could geare up the other mage's of the guild.
i case some off you might not make it for a raid day it would be good for the raid to get a player inside the raid that is not under geared.
if non of the suggestions are ok with you i was wondering about the healers i have a lvl 80 druid that i can geare up pretty fast hes already got some decent geare and might be a bigger benefit to the guild.
all replies and post's are appreciated

[Quasark]

Hey octo,

You're right the mage team is very active, and that does leave other mages in a tricky situation, HOWEVER, you're making two assumptions which are not correct:

1. You assume that all 3 mages attend every raid night
2. You're assuming we only ever run with 3 mages
3. You assume you're only ever invited to 25 man runs

The reality is, the three mages are not only active, we're pretty good with DPS (well, except for bunny, but we like to make carrot jokes). Remember, we've got you as "in training" as your gear needs some serious improvement before you become competitive on the DPS charts. And the reality is, we all need high DPS for ICC 25.

There are occassions when we run TOC25 (as you're well aware, you did very well the other night loot wise - which is great, means you can get that essential gear ASAP). I know that none of the 3 active mages need anything from TOC25. This means I prefer to come on my pally, bunny will come on one of his alts, or disappear, and reggie won't roll on anything. It means that the people you're rolling against are mostly alts (and will prolly have really low PRIO as a result. READ: You'll get a lot of loot).

So, one option is of course to wait for nights like those. Another option, ICC10. We run them regularly on Fri/Sat/Sun evenings, and we're trying to ecourage people "In training" and other people who don't manage to get a spot on Wed/Thu to run then too. Come to those - better gear there than TOC25.

Regarding mages loggin out on "farm" bosses, I think we're a long way from wanting to do this, but I do speak for myself here. First off, they are not really "farm" bosses by my definition, we still like to have folks flasks, well fed, and careful not to make mistakes. Also, there is an EP award given whilst we're doing these bosses, that EP award translates directly to loot dropped by the bosses we DO need loot from.

Meaning it's unlikely, until most/all the loot we need has been dropped that any mage (or other main), would rather not partake in, and lose EP (i.e. PRIO) for that.

Your suggestions are valid, and borne out of a genuine desire to improve your gear, and by extension your value to the guild, and I applaud that. As mentioned on your apply though, there will be a period of time between your acceptance to the guild, and your regular raiding. This is that period. Keep gearing up, it IS very possible (Calypsu set a new standard when we went from dinging 80 to being ICC25 ready in ONE WEEK!). It cost him 15k gold I believe, and more time than most of us have available, but it is possible.

Once you're at the level which we need you at, your gear, and your EP will ensure regular invites to the raid. The beauty of EPGP is that no other mage really cares that there's another mage he'd potentially have to share his loot with (in case you're worried about that).

The short answer is this:

1. Gear up more
2. Run ICC10 more
3. Get more ilvl264 stuff (crafts, etc) - see Guild Crafters for more info (I should be able to help you)
4. Be online every raid night at 19h45 - this will net you 4k EP, which will up your standings in the guild
5. Patience. All things are evened out in the long run. Stick it out, and your dedication and perseverance will be rewarded.

Regarding your druid alt, I'm going to keep that question thrown out there to the healing officers, but would suggest you focus on one main for purposes of gearing and usefulness to the raid.

Good luck!

Q